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 Welcome. Welcome everyone. Hey, Franz . Hi, Franz. Hey. I’m almost afraid to like bring this up on the podcast because I haven’t read the book yet. We’re just gonna start right there, aren’t we? What’s up, Heather ? Have you seen all the buzz about the new thriller novel?

“You Should Have Told Me” by Leah Conan. Oh man. I have seen some articles about that. And I have it on my to-read list. I have it on my tonight stand to read. Oh, it’s even closer. Yeah. But I actually have really bad nightmares most of the time, so I have to be really careful about reading thrillers before bed.

And I know I need to do it for our people, but I’m like nervous. Hey, I’m gonna buy it on Audible if I can find it there because usually like listening to those, like during the day while I’m driving and stuff makes them less scary? Yeah. Oh my God. May That’s not a bad idea actually. Yeah. So I haven’t read it yet.

I’ve heard it’s killer. Yeah. But the gist of it is it is a postpartum mom in like the first six weeks, I believe, postpartum. And her husband disappears while taking care of the baby one night and another woman turns up dead. So it’s like, about that, but also she talks a lot about breastfeeding, I guess, and she talks a lot about like the difficulties of it and the stress of being postpartum.

And I’m like, well, that’s pretty cool that you’re bringing that up. And then she’s using her platform to write some really meaningful articles about why our system is broken and how we sign off every single episode. You know, the way we change the system that is not set up for lactating parents. And she’s like, Hey, it’s not set up for lactating parents.

So much so that I turned it into a scary story. Maybe we should get her on the show. Yeah, maybe she’ll come on the show, Leah. Well, I, I just got an audible while you were talking. I used a credit. Oh, good job. Been hoarding them. It’s Leah, right? Not Leia. I, hold on. It’s l e a h. Yeah, that is most commonly pronounced, Leah, but I’ve also heard it as, So I don’t know which is her.

All right, well, we’ll find out. We’ll find out. Yeah. Anyway, if you’ve read it, email us at MilkMinutePodcast@gmail.com and let me know if I should read it during the daytime or the nighttime if I’m prone to nightmares. I’ll update you guys after I’m done listening. Okay, perfect. What, okay, wait, what are you reading?

Right now. Yeah. What are you reading right now? So I just, what did I just start? I just started another like smutty romance book. Nice. I just finished a smutty romance novel called Electric Gods. Ooh. It was, so I just started broken bonds. Oh. Yeah, if you guys didn’t know, we love smut. We just like, it’s not our podcast topics.

I don’t talk about it all the time, but like I’m pretty much down for almost any trope you can think of. Yeah, same. Yeah. And I’m just saying, so with the new Avatar movie out, I think a lot of people are realizing like, why everybody loves Ice Planet Barbarians. Did you read those ? No. They really absurd, but good monster smut, like alien, like big blue aliens that look a lot like somebody in that movie,

That’s funny. You know what they’ve done research on women’s brains and sex obviously, cuz they’re always trying to figure us out and how they can get more of it from us, I think. But yes they pretty much found that when women. Anybody have sex animal, human monster? When they think about it, it doesn’t matter.

We get the same level of arousal. So, you know what though? I, so I have I this year for like the last six months, I’ve just been on like a really like absurdist fantasy smut, like kick . This is great. You know, just like anything, I’m so glad we’re going here today. It’s, it’s so good . But what I’ve realized though is like every book, it’s like, okay, that is a werewolf shifter.

That is a blue alien. That is a dragon. You know what they all have in common though, for the most part, these men are very into and like very respectful. And I’m like, maybe he does have two dicks. But he’s very nice to her. Wow. Yeah. Thank you two dick Monster. Yeah, it’s like it, and I’ll just like keep reading this.

Over and over and I’m like, wow, that was a very respectful statement from whatever that weird animal dude is that we’re about to have sex within the book. Okay. Oh my God, that’s great. But maybe because we have to imagine absolutely. Fictional men for that to be true. Well, I think it is no surprise that the romance novel industry has skyrocketed since covid because when you’re locked in with your partner for two years and weird spice it up, we’ve.

B it up and actually like totally tmi. Mom stop listening immediately. My friend Abigail loves romance novels. Yeah. And so I get them all from her. So she’ll just pass them on to me. And I woke my husband up in the middle of the night one night and just for a little quickie. Oh yeah. And he looked at me and he was like, oh my God, I haven’t seen you this turned on in like a year.

He said, what does Abigail have you reading over there? And I was like it’s about Aphrodite and oh, what’s his, what’s her son’s name? I don’t even remember. It doesn’t matter. Doesn’t it? Doesn’t matter, does it? It doesn’t. Ooh gee. Oh, it was Psyche. Psyche was the girl, and Aeros was the boy.

Yes. I’m sure it was. Yeah. I , honestly, just like I’m pretty much willing to give any book a try. There are just very few romance situations that I’m like, that doesn’t interest me at all. Most of them, like, why not? It could be. Who knows. There’s actually a funny, gosh, I can’t remember the account. There’s a funny TikTok account of this author who just reads like the most absurd romance book she can find.

Like Santa Claus candy Canes. Oh my gosh, snowman, she had a big Christmas thing. A dude who changes into a potato. Balloon animal shifter. You never know till you try it and then like reviews them on TikTok. They’re hilarious. I feel like since you previously told us that you can make balloon animals, really?

You brush that just changes the context there. That’s too much. That’s so freaking funny. Oh my god. Well, speaking of our overnight tropes, We are talking about managing our breasts overnight, but not in a sexual way unless you want it to be. In which case, go for it. You go for it. . Everyone’s got their kink.

Maybe it’s yours. Yes. Big juicy, full boobies, overnight. Who knows? We don’t judge. However we have an interest in keeping you comfortable and keeping your milk supply stable. So one of the questions that we get a lot is, what do I do when my baby starts sleeping through the night? You know? And for a lot of people, they’re like, haha, funny.

That will never happen to me. I sympathize. However, babies who sleep through the night spontaneously do exist. I, they feel like a myth to me, but they do exist. Yeah. So, you know. When your baby starts sleeping through the night before you are ready. The question is like, what do I do? My boobs aren’t sleeping through the night.

Do I pump? Do I wake the baby to eat? That seems wrong, right? We never wanna wake the baby. Yeah. Do we like just push through the, through the discomfort what’s going on? Yeah. So we’re gonna talk about all of that and reminder that Maureen and I both live in West Virginia and we do consults in person as well as anywhere in the world with telehealth.

And I do accept some insurance. And those links are always in the show notes. So if you are listening at two o’clock in the morning with giant full boobs right now, Yes. Without a romance novel to help you. Click on one of those links and we will get you some help. Absolutely. So before we get really into the nitty gritty, I wanted to thank Ashley G, our new patron.

Ashley, thank you. Thank you for believing in the project and for believing in us. We hope that our content continues to deliver in a way that supports you. Absolutely. Well, let’s take a little break before we answer a question, and then we’ll get into it.

Imagine a world where you seek lactation care and it’s easy and someone greets you at the door and they’re nice to you and they give you a hot cup of tea and let you sit on the couch and talk about all the issues, not just the breastfeeding issues. What a cozy fantasy Is there anywhere that’s real? Oh, it’s real girl.

It’s real, and I’ve been building it for quite a long time. My business is called Breastfeeding for Busy Moms, and me and every member of my team are trained in our three major tenets, which is accessibility, kindness, and personalization. If you wanna book a consult with Heather or anyone else on her team, you should head over to BreastfeedingForBusyMoms.com.

We do accept some limited insurance, and we’d be happy to walk you through it if you wanna give us a call. And that number’s on Google. So go sit on the cozy couch with Heather at Breastfeeding for Busy Moms. Love you guys.

All right, welcome back everybody. We have a question from a listener. So this question is from Bale Ann from our Facebook group and Bale says, I am 21 weeks pregnant and have a nursing 16 month old. Usually she nurses every other day, but she’s sick right now and we’ve been breastfeeding more. I woke up very full of milk and I’m wondering if it’s safe to pump to start building a stash for number two.

So as always, we’re not your specific medical provider. I don’t know all the details of your pregnancy, but in general, if you start out a pregnancy, nursing or pumping, it’s going to be safe to continue either one or both of those throughout the pregnancy, right? Barring any complications. So if you’re nursing pumping isn’t really gonna be that different.

And also there’s really no. Start building a stash for number two if you’re actively nursing a toddler. Yeah. We don’t typically see milk supply issues in people that successfully breastfed.  exclusively the first time are still lactating. So like you, your breasts are currently in milk making mode. We usually see that transition being really easy and get some sleep.

For the love of God. Yes, I would prioritize sleep. You’re already probably waking up 50 million times to pee in the middle of the night. Yeah, we just don’t need to be doing that. And you know, that’s a good segue into this whole episode because you know, this is the scenario people are faced with, right?

You go from nursing like say two to three times a night to all of a sudden baby is now sleeping from eight to eight, and you wake up with full leaking painful boobs. You know, the first time it happens, you’re like, oh, it’s a fluke, whatever. But then it happens again and again and. , what do we do? Do we prioritize comfort and pump overnight?

Do we prioritize, you know, keep stashing milk overnight or do we prioritize sleep? I bet you know what I did . I bet. You know what I would recommend, however, you know, there’s a lot of things we’re gonna be considering before making recommendation for you and before you can make a good choice. Right? And you know, when people ask me this question, the first thing that I say is, how old is your baby?

Yeah. We have to really consider the fact that the younger the baby is, the more fragile your milk supply is. Yes. And it’s very, very normal for babies to nurse overnight in the first three months for sure. Mm-hmm.  three months and beyond. But in the first three months, definitely we see in the research a correlation between milk supply and overnight nursing.

Yes. And now mostly those babies are not gonna sleep through the night, but sometimes they do. So, With a baby that young, yes, we, we might make the choice then to wake up once and pump at night to maintain that supply. Or to wake baby and feed them, depending on their weight gain. Right? Yeah. If you’ve got a baby who’s been struggling with weight gain issues, we definitely wanna make sure that we are waking them up.

Not every two to three. , but like every four, five, you know, we just don’t need to be going 12 hours without a feed. Yes. If your baby’s two months old, like that’s, that would be weird. Mm-hmm. , that would be, Weird. That would be odd to me. Yeah. And, and I’ve seen it though, you know? Right. But that is an outlier.

Yeah. And so either way, you’re gonna want to contact a professional and be like, my eight week old slept 12 hours last night. And be like, okay, cool. Let me, let’s bring ’em in. Yeah. Let’s make sure everything’s okay. And you’re gonna be so engorged, , it’s gonna be really uncomfortable. Yeah. And also in that first three months, they’re just a lot more unpredictable.

So I have seen this more often than not.  where your baby sleeps through the night. Mm-hmm.  for the first time, and your boobs don’t, so you wake up and you pump. The next night you’re like, oh, this is it. I’m gonna pump. I’m gonna build a stash. And then your baby wakes up 20 minutes after you’re done pumping every time, and now you have no milk and now you have to bottle feed.

Now you have to do dishes. Yeah. In the middle of the night. And you’re like, God, dark. Ugh, babies. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it’s consistency. Yeah. In that first three months, I would say, Wake your baby up. Yeah. And feed your baby if you’re feeling full. Or just get some sleep and then don’t anticipate anything the next night.

Exactly. Just go with the flow. Now moving ahead. If baby is over six months old, we can usually be like a lot more flexible. It’s a lot more common for them to sleep through the night. And your milk supplies a lot more stable. Right. So again, You know, we’re probably gonna be pushing more towards sleep here and especially over 12.

Girl, get that sleep. Oh yeah. And we do know that every, you know when babies start sleeping through the night, which is technically like, what, six hours? Yeah. Five, six hours. Mm-hmm. . So sleeping through the night. Mm-hmm.  our milk sup, our milk composition changes. Yes. So when they start going longer stretches between feeds, our body, crams in more of the vitamins, minerals, antibodies into a smaller volume.

So it’s. The equivalent of eating chicken pot pie versus chicken broth. So when you have a newborn and they’re nursing every hour to three hours, it’s more like chicken broth constantly, and they have to eat all the time. But when they’re eating like six times in a 24 hour period now because they’re spacing it out so much and they’re eating solid foods, your body is like, okay, I only have a limited amount of milk to get all of these daily requirements of things in it.

So let’s c a block, full it. Full it up. Yes. You know, baby’s age. One factor to consider how much milk you normally make is another one. Let’s start out by saying we are assuming you have a normal milk supply. You make enough, you make just what your baby eats. Those people, I am not gonna recommend that they wake up at night if they have a healthy baby who’s gaining well, right?

For the most part, your body’s gonna adjust to the new schedule within a week, and we’re gonna say, Hey, like, you know, empty your breast before bed. Use a cold, compress, go to sleep, take an ibuprofen, call it a night. Mm-hmm. . . And you know the other option like, like you said, I love that you said empty your breast before bed because often baby goes to bed hours before you do.

Yeah. So if baby’s going to bed at 7:00 PM you’ll pump or do a dream feed around 10. Sure. So a lot of people will do a dream feed where you sneak in and don’t really wake your baby up, but you put ’em to the breast and then they will go to bed themselves. So either dream.  or empty your breasts and go to bed, and sometimes babies wake up at two and sometimes they wake up at 6:00 AM.

Yeah. And you know, again, I would then recommend emptying when you wake up. You might wake up hours before your baby to go to work, you know, or they might be the one who wakes you up. So that would be a, a kind of normal way to manage this change. And it gives you flexibility to respond to your baby without having to consider like pumping schedule.

Yeah. The other option is if you wake up and maybe this is the first time it’s happened and you’re like, oh my gosh, it’s 2:00 AM and my baby’s still asleep, and you’re like holding the mirror under their nose to see if they’re making the breath noises. Yes. The, the, what are you, how would you say that?

The breath sight. What do you to, to verify the thing, the fog. The breathing fog on the mirror, you could just do some haka, like you could just throw, throw the haka on, throw your lady bugs on, just to relieve a little bit of that pressure and to let your body know, like, I hear you. I’m not sure what this kid is doing.

Right. We’re gonna see how it goes. They might wake up in an hour, so like, just go back to sleep. It’s gonna be okay. Pop your ibuprofen at that time. Mm. , relieve a little bit of the pressure, but don’t pump completely. Right. And then go back to sleep. And the next night, if your kid does it again, I would probably still do the haka thing again.

Three nights in a row? Yeah. Just for comfort. Just for comfort. Three nights in a row, I’m like, all right, now I’m going to bed . And at that point in time, it’s gonna be a lot easier to calm your boobs down than if you had been completely pumping to empty for those two nights before. Yeah. Now there are instances where we would be adjusting that plan, right?

If you have either an oversupply or low supply. . So you wanna chat about oversupply first? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oversupply is pretty miserable, and I would say that a lot of people that struggle with oversupply who now are like quote unquote regulated and mm-hmm.  normal, like they’ve fixed it. They are the most afraid of this scenario.

Oh yeah. Because they’ve gone through all the mastitis and all the leaning down. If you have not gone through.  and you have an oversupply. I always recommend you work with a professional for a plan to reduce your overt supply to be manageable and, and I’m not talking about like, oh, I make an extra ounce.

No, I’m talking about the people who pump like, you know, 50 ounces a day. Mm-hmm.  like we need to moderate that. And we do have an episode on that that we will link in the show notes for you. Yeah. So we just wanna acknowledge that over suppliers are really afraid of the situation. They’re afraid of going too long without feeding, cuz they don’t wanna get mastitis or plugged.

and also they’re afraid of pumping. Mm-hmm.  too much. Right. To increase accidentally. Exactly. So you’re kind of between a rock and a hard place. And we, we feel you on that one. Yes. we would say to either slowly expand the time between your pumps. Yes. Yes. At night. At night, yeah. So do you wanna explain that a little bit?

Yeah. So yeah, two strategies for this. One is to space out your pump slowly. Usually I say just start by like a half an hour. If you’re an over supplier, we gotta start small, right? So say you pump every night at 8:00 PM and.  at 11:00 PM et cetera. You would then pump at eight and 1130, right? You would just push it out by a half an hour, wait a couple days, see how it goes.

You’re like, oh, that does feel fine. Push it out by another half an hour until you’re at the point where you have less pumps in general, right? Where you’ve pushed entirely one of your pumping sessions out or two to a place where you feel comfortable and you feel like you’re getting more sleep and you’re not increasing your.

the other way that we can deal with this instead of adjusting the time between pumps is adjusting the time we spend pumping.  Or the volume? Yes. Or the volume. It depends on the person. Some people will pump like 10 ounces in five minutes. Mm-hmm. . So if you’re that person, you can’t really go by time cuz you barely have.

Yeah. You just have to look at your ounces. . Yeah. You’re just gonna have to look down or use smaller bottles. So that’s one of the ways that I’ve helped people is like, if you feel it falling on your leg in the middle of the night, you’ve done overflow it and you need to stop now. ? Yeah. Decreasing that amount of time.

So maybe instead of pumping for 20 minutes, you pump for 10. Yeah. Just to take that pressure off. But really I don’t, I usually tell people, I don’t know if you tell people this, but you really don’t need to be pumping more than six ounces. Yeah. Outta 10. Yeah, absolutely. . I agree.  Because your baby is not gonna eat more than five, for sure.

Yeah. Usually it’s more like three or four. Yeah. And so if you’re doing six and your baby eats four, you are still at an oversupply. Absolutely. And again, you gotta do this slowly if you’re pumping a lot of milk. So whether you’re cutting time off the pump or you’re say, okay, I usually pump 10 ounces, I’m gonna go to eight ounces.

That’s fine but do that for a couple of days and see how it feels. And then reduce again. And reduce again. You know, because you’re gonna be at the highest risk for like inflammatory issues like mastitis. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. So if your baby typically only wakes up, let’s just do a case study. Yeah. If your baby.

wakes up only once overnight, typically at 2:00 AM and now for the past three nights, they’ve slept from 7:00 PM to 7:00 AM mm-hmm. . Then at 2:00 AM when your boobs wake you up, you are gonna get up and you’re going to pump two ounces less than you normally do, and the next night you’re gonna pump maybe three ounces less than normally do maybe.

Yeah. You’re gonna see how it feels, right? Yeah. If you pump two ounces less, you’re like, I feel uncomfortable. And I feel engorged, the next night you’re gonna do the same thing. Mm-hmm. , if you pump two ounces less and you’re like, I’m fine, then you’re gonna keep reducing the next night. Mm-hmm. , everybody’s a little bit different.

Mm-hmm.  until finally when you’re down to about two ounces total. Right. You should be able to just cut the pump usually. Yeah. Yeah. Or you might just have to like throw a haw on for a couple minutes. Right. And then cut it after that. . You know, all of our bodies are so different in the way that they respond to the stimuli around us.

So make sure that above all else, you are responsive to your own body. Mm-hmm. , let’s take a break and when we come back, we’re gonna talk about managing low supply and sleeping through the night.

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Welcome back everybody. So we’re moving on from talking about managing that sleep overnight with an oversupply to managing it with low supply. And this is tricky, and I think a lot of people with low supply again, are really afraid of this because they know if they’re cutting out feeds and pumps, they’re telling their body they need less.

And that’s like the opposite of what they wanna tell their body. And these people have often already been losing sleep and working really hard to keep their milk supply. And at this point they’re at peak exhaustion and sometimes they’re just at that mm-hmm. , that moment where you’re like, I hate my body.

Yeah. Like, is it worth, worth it at all? Yes. Yes. So they come into us as professionals and they’re like, what do I do? Right? I started using my freezer stash. I’m now supplementing with formula. And that’s not what I aim to do. So the big thing that I’ve, as we’ve talked about so many times is that for many people, night feeds are essential.

for building milk supply and reminder. That is because prolactin levels, that’s the hormone that’s like, Hey, let’s make more milk. Prolactin levels are higher at night because it’s actually part of your sleep hormone set. . So typically feeds or pumps from like two to 7:00 AM around that time, are gonna be the highest volume and the most effective for sending a message to your body.

Hey, hello. Please give us some more. . Yeah. And so with these people, I tend to lean toward the yes and approach. Mm-hmm. , where I’m like, yes, you need to pump overnight. And that means you go to bed when baby goes to bed. Yes. So if your baby goes to bed at eight, guess what? You’re going to bed at eight and if your baby sleeps till 6:00 AM you’re gonna then wake up at two and you’re gonna pump.

Yeah. So you slept from eight to two. And that is technically.  a good night’s sleep, which is good for your supply. Yeah. But you didn’t miss out on that very important window for the prolactin spike in in the middle of the night. Absolutely. Right. So we’re starting off with a valuation. , how much more sleep do you need?

we, we, we know you need more sleep. Mm-hmm. , what are your goals? Are you okay with where your supply’s at? Are you okay with supplementing? You know, and if you want to increase your supply also, what other ways can we do this other than having you wake up every two to three hours a night? Right, because that is no fun.

Yeah. We don’t just wanna rely on that one pump overnight, be like, well if you just pump overnight, that would fix all your issues. We have to prop it up with some other supports. Exactly. So, you know, I usually say, let’s make this. As easy as possible so you can get more sleep, right? So we’re setting your pumping alarm, 2:30 AM you’re gonna pump for 20 minutes.

You are not gonna get up and go downstairs and get your pump. You are gonna wake up and your pump’s gonna be right next to you with clean stuff, and you’re gonna have your series chiller or your mini fridge there also. Mm-hmm. . And you’re gonna pump and close your eyes. You’re not gonna look at your phone. None of that blue light BS

Mm-hmm. You’re gonna, you know, put some music on or read a book and when you finish pumping, you’re gonna put it away. You’re not getting up again. . And you are going back to sleep immediately. Yeah. Yeah. We’re not gonna turn on all the lights, we’re not gonna do stuff. We’re not gonna be like, well, while I’m up I should do the dishes.

No, because we are prioritizing sleep and health. And the less that you do and move and look at while you’re awake in the middle of the night, the faster you will return to. Get your snack too, because have little snack. You know you’re gonna be hungry. A snacky snack when you wake up in the middle of the night and you’re like, ah.

Yeah. And a cup of water. Just like imagine before you go to sleep, you put your baby to bed and you’re like, now I’m gonna set up my night station. Mm-hmm. , set that up and then put yourself to bed. I love the series chiller for this because same. You, it like really gives you that peace of mind that the dog isn’t gonna come , you know, eat it off the nightstand.

I know technically you could, I guess leave it at room temperature. You could certainly leave it at room temperature as long as you don’t forget to put it in the fridge in the morning, and you probably will. But you know, if you’re in like a situation where you’re back to work, like it would be totally fine.

You could just take. Put it in the cooler and send it to daycare. Yep, no problem. But you know, if you’re like me and you kind of run high on anxiety , and if you are worried about your milk being on your nightstand at room temperature mm-hmm. , and then you’re having nightmares about it and then you can’t sleep and then you forget it and then you’re like, I knew it, I knew I’d forget it.

Just get the damn chiller. We have a code, it’s milkman at 15 for 15% off. We’ll put that in the show notes as well. And that, that thing has saved my booty so many times. The boob. My booty and my boobies  when I have forgotten my milk in the car. Oh yeah. When I’ve come home from work and then in the morning I’m like, oh no, where’s my milk?

It’s still cold in the car. Thank goodness. Yep. Thank goodness. So we love that thing. Some people will also use the haka. So like we said overnight, if you use the haka, get the one with the suction cup and the lid. Because I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard people say, yep. I woke up to my dog lapping the milk out of the hawk.

Mm-hmm. . I know. So that’s done. Do you know last time I did that with the hawk where I like did it in the middle of the night and put it away. I forgot to put the little stopper in and then I woke up and there was a dead ladybug in it. Shut up. Ew. It, I’m so mad. Oh, and it was not really a ladybug, it was one of the Asian lady Beatles that Stinked too.

Yeah, they, so it was like, It was like yucky, stinky. It was terrible. It made me cry a little bit. You know what? Last night when I was working on prepping these episodes mm-hmm. , there was this little gnat buzzing around my head and it landed on my nose. And I swear to God, like Mr. Miyagi, I grabbed it with my two fingers and squished it on my fingers, but it smelled, oh, I had to like get up and go wash my hands.

Gross. So get the one with the lid. You guys don’t, yeah. . Don’t be gross. And remember to gross. Put the lid on , remember to put the lid on.  we’re, that’s my problem is I have the things I need; I just don’t remember to use them. Yeah. . Yeah, exactly. So get the tools you need and if, if this is still overwhelming or your baby is asleep, nightmare in itself.

Yeah. Please get a sleep coach cuz we are not sleep coaches. Yeah, we’re not. We know nothing about it. But yeah, so if you’re like, well one night my baby is up every hour on the hour and then the next night they slept eight hours and then they’re up every hour on the hour and then they slept eight hours.

What is it? The cauliflower I ate and I’m like, okay, no, it’s not the cauliflower, but this is now beyond me. Yes. I, every time someone has a sleep question that’s not directly related to breastfeeding, I’m like, you just stepped outside of my comfort experie.  its own. Yeah. I’m so sorry. I, I dunno. I dunno.

Maybe one day I will take a wonderful continuing education evidence-based course on it, but I have yet to find one of those if only there was one. I know, I know. Anyway, I hope that helps you guys. We really wanna encourage you to prioritize sleep in your own health and you know, definitely. Take care of yourself.

Yeah, please do. All right let’s take a little break and when we come back, we’re gonna get to our favorite segment, the award in the Alco. Yay.

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It is the only thing I use to transport my breast milk to and from work while I’m working. It’s got a sleek and beautiful design. Lots of great colors, high quality materials and manufacturing. Sir Chill also has other products that you might wanna check out too. My personal favorite is the milk stash.

They have a great nipple shield that actually changes colors and it’s not clear like all the other ones, . And you know how we feel about that . If you want to have your very own series chiller, please go to the Lincoln R show notes and use code milkman at 15 at checkout. That’s milkman 15 for 15% off your series.

Chill Products. Enjoy. And we’re back and we have an award to give and I’m so excited. All right. This award is for Elizabeth Carpenter.  and she told us I am on breastfeeding journey number two and I’ve made it past the one year mark with both of them. My goal is to hit over two years with my second, like I did for my first, I am an over supplier and when my first breastfed, I helped a coworker feed her triplets, and this time I’m actually helping the l and d nurse that delivered my.

with feeding her fifth baby. That’s super cute. That is so cute. Definitely came full circle this time. Absolutely, it did. Elizabeth, congratulations. I love that you have found many ways to feel really fulfilled in your breastfeeding journey. Yeah. You’re the gift that keeps giving. That’s amazing.

Absolutely, and we’re gonna award you the roundtrip activist award,  cuz you made it all the way around full circle with both babes. Good job, great job. And I’m gonna close us out with an Apple review and we do read every single one of these and we appreciate them so much and they give us all of the good vibes that we need to keep going.

So this is from Boiler HK Real Mom’s Real Talk. I have enjoyed listening to this podcast and the information I’ve gained from it. The ladies are very straightforward and honest with their information and their own struggles. They make me wanna be an I B C L C someday.  as you should. Aw . That’s great. Good luck with that.

Yeah, absolutely. And thank you guys all out there for the appreciation you show us for the work we do. It’s, it’s really nice. It is really nice. Thanks you. Thanks for listening to another episode of the Milkman podcast. You know, especially with our introductory monsters. What today? ? Yeah. If you read that one about the potato hit me off.

You gotta let us know. Let me know what happens. . The way we change this big system that is not set up for lactating parents or, you know, p parents that wanna like be alive sexually, postpartum in any way. We do that by educating ourselves, our friends, and our loved. . If you guys liked this episode or any other, you could consider supporting us on Patreon, patreon.com/milk podcast.

And that’s it folks. I’m just thinking about that potato.

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